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DFLRunner wrote: I'm already claiming Leah, Radke and B-Ski as my relay team. With that line-up, how could I mess it up?

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Bryan Jones wrote:
DFLRunner wrote: I'm already claiming Leah, Radke and B-Ski as my relay team. With that line-up, how could I mess it up?

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Don't trip and break a leg?
Ever hear of Tonya Harding? :twisted:
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LT wrote:I am curious, how will the Hogeye Relay be scored? And will it have to be all male and all female teams i guess? Either way, GREAT idea...just curious how it will work. :pompom: :pompom: :pompom:
As the scorekeeper-guy, Andrea asked me to answer this one.

Okay, folks, here is how the Grand Prix scoring will work at the Hogeye Marathon Relay Competition next spring....

First of all, there are NO individual points up for grabs. Only team points are on the line. It does not affect IronMan/IronWoman status. You do not have to be on a relay team at Hogeye to go for the 2011 Iron Award.

The scoring is pretty straight forward: First team across the finish line gets 20 points, second team gets 18 and so on as it will be considered a non-championship event. Male teams are scored separately from female teams, like always.

To earn team points, your team must be all male or all female. LRRC cannot cheat by having Leah on their men's team. Each teams' runners must all be in your club and must all be on your 2011 Grand Prix roster. And like all races, all members of the relay team must be signed up for the GP at least five days before the race. So no getting a Razorback ringer that you meet at the Expo to be on your team.

Clubs may have as many teams as they want. But only the first team from each club across the line factors into the scoring.
-For example, let's say that RVR has two men's teams:
RVR A: Bresette, Hink, Witt and Witt
RVR B: Billy, Aspel, D-Mac and Hunnicutt.

Then let's say RVR A wins the event, followed by LRRC, then CRC, RVR B, WRR, CCC, and ARK.
In this example the scoring would be: RVR 20, LRRC 18, CRC 16, WRR 14, CCC 12, and ARK 10. RVR B doesn't factor into the scoring and does not bump WRR, CCC, and ARK down at all.

So why have more than one team? Why not just stack your four fastest runners on one and be done with it? Because with multiple teams you'll have back-up in case of disaster. Let's say that Hink pulls his groin on the second leg of the relay and has to walk 4 miles to the next relay stop where Carter Witt is waiting to run the third leg. If that happened, let's assume RVR A would probably finish last. But RVR B can pick up the slack and get the club 3rd place rather than 6th.
Also, why not have more than one team? Running is fun and who wouldn't want to be on hand for the FIRST EVER GRAND PRIX RELAY COMPETITION!

That's it really. if you've got some leftover runners from each gender and want to put them on a co-ed team, more power to ya. Co-ed teams will not factor into the team scoring in any way, shape or form, but like what I said earlier - just being out there and running is reward enough

Oh yeah, one final thing:
Team names - you must have your club's name or initials in the team name. I don't want to have to figure out who everyone is if there are a bunch of names like "The Four Horsemen of the Apocolypse" and "The Four Musketeers", or any other random thing.
So like the example above, maybe "RVR A and RVR B". You can still be somewhat clever like if Sterka, McWool, Wags, and Eason called themselves the "Conway Running Club Men" then Lenser, Stone, Stan, and Sawyer might form their own relay team called the "Conway Running Club REAL Men". Just have the club name or initials in there somewhere please!
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Very Cool! This is a great concept-fun and gets people the experience of running a relay that normally would not.....

Nice logo too!
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Great logo & schedule.
Could a Hogeye relay team have less than 4 runners? Like a 3 person team, with one of the runners, running two legs of the relay.
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As long as the race allows you to do that, then it would be okay.
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It looks like Hogeye does not allow less than 4 person team and allowing one two or three to compete changes the whole team aspect of this event. I oppose Grand Prix points for any team less than 4 runners. That's the whole point of it being a team event.[/quote]
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Good point, Mr. Drake. And since Hogeye doesn't allow it, it is a definite no-go. We can't have teams breaking race rules.

You need four guys to score teams points at every other race, so it isn't asking any more to require 4 guys in order to score team points at the relay.

Women only need 3 to score team points at other races, but considering the females now routinely outnumber the men on the GP roster, I don't think it is asking too much that the women need four different runners to earn team points at the relay competition either.

Plus, I'm sure this would eventually lead to someone wanting to run the full Hogeye marathon and have their time count as their club's relay team. Or two guys would run the half and want me to add their times together, etc..... Definitely do NOT want all that hassle and it gets away from the spirit of the thing.

For the relay, it takes four to score! :pompom:
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Now that we got all that out of the way. Who wants to be one my team?
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dmeroney wrote:Looks great! Thanks to all who have worked hard to get this all set.

So, who's going to join me for running them all???
Let's do it David. :ohyeah:
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Gi-Gi wrote:Now that we got all that out of the way. Who wants to be one my team?
I do!
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Gi-Gi wrote:
Now that we got all that out of the way. Who wants to be one my team?


I do!
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Re: Relay team

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TC wrote:Gi-Gi wrote:
Now that we got all that out of the way. Who wants to be one my team?


I do!
Sweet...you and Leah on my team. Hell to the yeah! We just need one more. Man I better work on my speed legs...cuz you gals are fast! :shock:
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shhhhhh! no more discussing team secrets on the forum, don't want RVR to know too much. I've talked to a couple of other male and female LRRC runners who want in on the Relay action. Team captains will get a pool of everyone who is interested and make sure that everyone who wants to run gets on an LRRC team. More secret details to follow...

GO BIRDS!GO BIRDS!GO BIRDS!GO BIRDS!GO BIRDS!
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RVR knows everything LRRC is doing Mr. S- Ski
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